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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.02.25 13:59:00 -
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The Caldari need some decent turret ships. The hybrid range bonus is a decent flavor difference from gallente ships but the Ferox and Moa have classically been underpowered compared to Thorax / Brutix.
I think that the 5th turret added to the Moa / Eagle has been a big recent improvement and I believe that the Ferox could also be improved as well by giving it 7 turrets (like the Brutix). The 5 turret/5 missile hardpoint layout means that the Ferox does not benefit as much from mag stabs and I have not been able to find any role in which this ship shines. With 7 turrets I think some decent railboat roles could open up and I don't think this would result in an overpowered battlecruise.
Does anyone have other thoughts on how this underutilized battlecruiser could be improved?
- Helo
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.02.25 20:43:00 -
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Thanks for your input so far! Here are some of my thoughts.
"Laser Ferox" = fail IMO
"extra PG for Ferox, and also Moa, Eagle" - Sure PG would help these ships but I want the turret hardpoints first. From what I understand it takes Advanced Weapons Upgrades V, an implant and a rig to fit the Eagle without any fitting mods. I'd take this as an argument that the ship needs a little PG but CCP may differ with me on that. However... what ship in Eve doesn't need a little more PG?
"Ferox is already better than Brutix especially with some secret fit" - I am sure that there must be some successful Ferox fits, especially if you knew exactly what fight you were fitting ffor. However, this is not really how Eve works. What I think the Ferox needs is to fulfill some specific role reasonably well, "disposable sniper" for example. However currently I would probably be better off in a Moa for this role. If the Ferox had 7 turrets I would have some reason to choose it over the Moa.
"Blaster Ferox" - I've looked at this and it has some good DPS... but much less than the equivalent fit on the Brutix. Brutix has two more turrets and a 25% hybrid damage bonus so can fit much more gank than Ferox. A Blaster Ferox with 7 turrets would be more able to compete. Now I don't know what difference the range bonus has here... possibly it is a good advantage but it doesn't seem so to me when we're talking about an optimal difference between the ships of a few km... while for DPS the difference is in hundreds.
Keep the suggestions coming! I really like the look of the Ferox and want to be able to use them.
- Helo
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.02.25 22:37:00 -
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Edit: Oh you allready realised:
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edited because my EFT had 5/5 for turrets/launchers... now I see Ferox has 6 turrets. I want 7 though darnit!!
While EFT is a great tool, and can also be used to compare ship balance on certain points, you really can't be taken serious if you didnt even check the ship in game.
So sue me Furb. It still needs a 7th turret.
- Helo
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.03.03 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lisento Slaven
Personally the resist bonus seems idiotic. The range bonus says it is a sniper.
Why do you need resists when you're sniping? Why not give it a bonus that compliments the optimal range bonus?
Or maybe increase the amount of the optimal range bonus. Let it snipe at 150km with a decent fit...
I'm liking this idea. Since most of us agree that it is no competition for the Brutix in blaster range... perhaps make the Ferox a sniping specialist... i.e. replace the tanking bonus with another optimal range bonus so is like a cheap Vulture? Could be pretty nice... and also I would love to have 6-7 turrets on my Vulture...
- Helo
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.03.05 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Heloise ChateauBriande on 05/03/2009 05:20:56
Camilo,
Care to share some fits, strategies or something? I like the look of the Ferox and want to start flying it some more.
- Helo
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2009.03.06 04:37:00 -
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Tagami,
The Assault launcher reduces the spread of heat through the high slots right? Is that what you meant about its placement?
- Helo
P.S. Fit looks good I may try it.
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